using less material = saving money
Prodos should be sorting those KS backers of this game who STILL haven't had anything yet even after 3 years, instead of punting out V2
AVP 2.0 minis
Changing the material could
Changing the material could be saving money, but the scale? Not really. Smaller scale means that the detail is more brittle and accident prone. FB pages seem to prove this, as many people report that their minis are damaged.
To me it's a problem with resin shrinking, something very common in that line of work.
Yeah, the KS is a different topic. I don't even want to elaborate on that.
it's Prodos who should be
it's Prodos who should be commenting on the KS issues and the 3 year wait some are experiencing.
Dont feed the troll.
Dont feed the troll.
it's Prodos who should be commenting on the KS issues and the 3 year wait some are experiencing.
On the real topic they changed the scale of the models? Do you have some comparison shots?
Not my picture, but I can
Not my picture, but I can make some if you want.
Wow - that's pretty
Wow - that's pretty noticeable!
Makes me worry about the scale of the cloaked predators o.o
Predators are least affected,
Predators are least affected, about 2-3mm so not noticeable at all. I don't have the cloaked Predators so I can't compare unfortunately.
Yeah I saw some more
Yeah I saw some more comparision pictures of the preds over on BGG - looked pretty much the same.
I don't *think* anyone has the clear preds yet (I'm hoping Prodos will send me my Kickstarter pledge once these are ready!), but I saw an image of the sprue posted over at DakkaDakka in the middle of March so hopefully not much longer to wait!!!
My collection so far :)
My collection so far :)
Aliens:
Alien Queen
Crusher
Royal Guard
2 Predaliens
10 Warriors
26 Alien Infants
10 Stalkers
5 facehuggers (not present in the pictures as I forgot about them, haha)
Total 1111pts (not counting upgrades)
USCM:
Power Loader
20 USCM Marines (5 each in squad)
10 commandos (5 each in squad)
4 sentries
I'm still waiting for the HQ's to be released by Prodos
Total 710pts (with weapons as I'm not going to replace these with anything else for now)
Predators:
3 Plasma Caster Predator
3 Combi Stick Predator
3 Smart Disk Predator
3 Youngbloods
6 Hellhounds
Total 856pts (not counting any weapons)
And some comparison shots of the new Marines. Mostly I've got beef with the smartgun, but the rest is passable.
I really love the minis and I'm going to start painting them up really soon. The bases are done (just missing 2 bases, one for Alien Warrior and 1 for extra Alien infant that I managed to assemble from spares) and the facehuggers needs some cleaning up.
All I'm missing are some HQs for Marines which is a bummer, making some Elder Predators (probably just different colors, maybe a little cape or something) and some nice terrain, which I'm still thinking about, cause the Unleashed rulebook isn't very specific on which types of terrain should one play.
Could we get some side-by
Could we get some side-by-side shots of the 1st and 2nd ed marines please, Gacu? (perhaps with some coins under the new ones so the bases are level with the old?)
Can't really tell scaling from the close-up shots as the 2nd ed guys are in front!
Yeah I can do that this
Yeah I can do that this evening, I'll put them on simillar height bases.
Some comparison shots:
Some comparison shots:
On further inspection and adjusting the height difference by adding a temporary base I must say it's not that bad. One thing that bothers me the most is the smaller version of the smartgun (about 1mm shorter) and 2 of the M41A1's that are also shorter (look at the magazine on the last model). Could be a different model of a gun (carbine?) and it's not that noticeable from the distance, altough I still think that the models should be about 10% bigger and that wouldn't be a problem at all.
Thanks for the pics - not as
Thanks for the pics - not as bad as I thought from the smartgun comparison - some of which must be down to the male/female models. As you say, the rifles seem to hae shrunk quite a bit though!
I think in a big force on the tabletop they mix okay - especially once painted. Just not together in the same squad.
I'm going to use them on
I'm going to use them on proper bases so the height difference should be negligible. I wouldn't mix them with older resins, looked hilarious :D.
Yeah I am actually ok with
Yeah I am actually ok with the scale change after seeing them on bases. The MG model is the most noticeable, and I can always imagine thats just a female marine.
EDIT: By the way I love the green stuffed bases Good job with those.
I don't mind that the female
I don't mind that the female version is smaller (look at vasquez and Drake), I'm annoyed that the Smart Gun is noticeably smaller ;).
Thank you for the nice words about the bases :). I took some time to made them to look the part. It was an easy job though, I just copied the NECA alien figure, fits nicely :)
Hi,
Most of you already got the AVP 2.0 boardgame. What do you think about it overall? In my opinion it looks great, I like the new format and minis.
One thing that bothers me is the scale of the minis. Aliens and Predators look ok (despite being a bit smaller than the original versions), but the biggest change are the marines. It looks like they're about 20% smaller which looks atrocious if you compare them to the originals. They're at least a head shorter, the guns are smaller it just looks out of place if you put them side by side. I don't think I will include them in my standard USCM army, because it ruins the aesthetic.
I wanted to ask PRODOS why they decided to make them smaller in the first place? What was the idea behind this?
I already have about 20 marines (and 10 commandos) in my collection, I wanted these 5 as something special and unique, but it seems they won't see any action due to being dwarfish in size (albeit the scale is better in comparison to Predators, but I think it's too late to change that, ain't it?)