Prodos Games

Started a thread over in the forums for the customs we've been talking about:
https://prodosgames.com/community/alien-vs-predator/alien-vs-predator-arcade-customs-project

I think the larger ships you mention, while they'd be cool as heck, would likely be much larger than what would be usable. On the other hand, some kind of floorplan for those ships along with the tiles to create sections of them would be incredibly useful. I think NECA did an escape pod but it would be a bit small. Might make a great terrain piece though.

I'm under the impression that Hot Landing was one of their best sellers. To me that suggests that they would have done themselves a favor by doing box sets more often. It would have been fairly simple to do box sets for each of the movies/games/comics. The biggest issue would have been getting approval for the molds before production, then just run with it. Each box set could include new characters unique to that piece of media, while throwing in a few new poses of existing models. And if each box set was designed to be self contained (Tile set, cards, tokens, miniatures, rule book) then I suspect that it would have appealed to more people as they could enter the game from their favorite setting and grow their collection from there. At the same time, if those models were available individually through the store, that owuld have been great as well (For example, I picked up six Hot Landing boxes between the time they released and this last week. Mostly this was for the Spitters as I only really wanted two of the Predators. Would have been nice to be able to pick up the Spitters as their own booster pack.)

The most recent Colonial Marines game would have been a good one to explore, as would Covenent and The Predator. But alas, it is not to be. So much untapped potential.

Did you see over on the forums that I did a batch of Warriors up as Boilers? Basically painted them gray, did patches in neon green, then hit the whole thing with a black wash. They turned out alright. Still need to make some custom stats for them though.

The Alien vs Predator card game is one I've always wanted to get into, but I've never had a chance to even play it and it's rare enough I doubt I'll ever find it now.

As for the customs, you're probably right about the arcade models. If I were to stat them, I'd want to play the game again. And as for painting them, I'd likely just try to find the most similar models to them and use that as a starting point. The Razor Claws for example look pretty similar to the Infants, if a little bigger. Would need to come up with a way to do the razor claws, but the rest of it could be handled with a paint job. The Smasher if you filled a few of the Warrior head ridges somehow and painted it right you could probably get away with that for a proxy model. The Arachnoid could be done with a little papercraft, cut out the little ridge for the back portion of the skill and glue it in place, then a hint of putty or green stuff to smooth the front into the main portion of the head. Defender could be handled with a creative bit of painting. I think the only REALLY difficult one would be the Chrysalis.

Infectoids would be handled as "zombie" models from a hundred different companies, or in the case of the predators just a custom painting should work.

The trickiest bit for any of these would be setting up stats and pricing them for play. In my experience the best way to do this is to find the closest thing to something already in the game, then add/remove abilities at listed costs to get them to about where you need them. After that, tweak as needed with a generous amount of play testing.

Chest busters actually wouldn't be difficult to create for the game. A piece of green stuff rolled into the shape, pose as needed, let dry and paint as desired.

I actually don't mind that the WY models are grouped together. I've played games with them against Marines before, aliens vs aliens, predators vs predators. I see the background of the card as more of a race identifier than a faction identifier. I figure it's up to the player to determine who's on who's side when the shooting starts.

When my orders arrive, I'm going to get all hyped and probably drag out some old Alien games, I'll hunt up the rom for the old AvP arcade game some time in the coming weeks and see about actually statting up some of these additional models. It won't be perfect, but I should be able to put together something that's passable stat wise without too much trouble.

Maybe we should take this over to the forums and we can put together a conversation thread. That way any stats we come up with or model mods we do will be where other people can find and use them as well. Not sure how long it will take to stat everything up, but once I get started, I don't expect it will take too long.

I broke down and pulled the trigger on one last order last night. Dipped into my savings heavier than I had planned, but I figure this is one last hurrah for the game before it vanishes into obscurity. But who knows, maybe we'll still get lucky and Prodos will regain the rights, or someone else will purchase those rights and continue the game in some form. Probably won't happen, but we can dream!

For the larger Terminator stuff, look into the old NECA models. Some of the Terminator vehicles from that look like they would scale fairly well, and I've seen others use them as proxies in their Terminator Genysis games.

I dragged out all of my old Aliens and Aliens vs Predator comics last night. Going to be reading through a bunch of those in search of inspiration for some new custom models for this game. Got Jeri half done, and I plan to do Herk Mondo and a Berserker power armor suit when I can find acceptable proxies for them. I think I'm going to paint up a squad of Infants as Red Xenomorphs just for some color verity in my models. Been looking for something I can use for Decon and the Newborn, but I haven't had much luck with those yet. So many great characters we never got to see.

Another thing I was looking at last night is the fact that the Mutations allow us to create stats for nearly every alien type from the old arcade game.
Arachnoid: Infant with Adrenaline Boost and Powerful Hind Legs mutations. Deployment: Regular, Infultration, Rapid Deployment, Stalk(?)
Chrysalis: Royal Guard core. Not sure what Mutations would be best though. Maybe Hive Collective, Regeneration, and Toughened Exoskeleton? Deployment: Regular, Flank Deployment.
Defender: Warrior core with Armored Plating. Deployment: Regular.
Razor Claws: Evolved Warrior core with Rippers and Bloodthirsty. Deployment: Regular, Flank Attack.
Smasher: Basically just a baby Crusher. I'm thinking Evolved Warrior Core with Armor Plating and/or Regeneration, and Relentless. Deployment: Regular, Flank Attack

Eventually I'll likely paint up a group of models to accommodate each of those groups, then do a set of custom cards for them. Use the above, or something close to it, then give each one the option of an additional Mutation.

Uniques in Unleashed? Hive Mother, Queen, and Predalien for Aliens. Dutch, Linn, and Machiko for Marines. Elders and Machiko for Predators Then there's Rob YourStand and Specimen 6. If you like playing larger games and have the models for it, Unleashed can be a lot of fun. There's a list of how many units of each type (Character, Infantry, Support, etc) you can have at each army size. How I've always read it is that named characters can only have one on the table.

The Dropship has rules in both the Unleashed book and in the Hot Landing box. My biggest complaint for it is that the APC doesn't fit in it

For me, I've always felt that the wargame plays best at over 1500 points. But then again I tend to prefer larger games.

I actually used the Terminator Genysis game you mentioned with a few models. I picked up two boxes of that game cheap and canabalized one box for some customs related to Alien vs Predator (The second box I threw the extra models into and we use the game as intended.) Might be a good place to start if you're interested in setting up an Alien vs Predator vs Terminator scenario. I used a couple of their rocket launcher models for Heavy Marines, and some of the big guns being carried by the Terminators to set up miniguns. The older box set actually sells fairly cheap online. I think a terminator faction would be fairly easy to put together. Start with the marine stats and make them a little harder to hurt. For the liquid terminators trade out the armor boost for a massive regeneration score. Hardest part is going to be pricing them for play.

I REALLY like the Young Bloods models, the wrist blades are very fragile though.

One thing you might think about if you haven't already: Extra starter boxes gets you extra tiles if you use them, extra tokens for big games, and most importantly it's the most cost effective way to build up some of your core troops. With my latest round of orders, I've got two more starters coming (I already had one 1st edition starter, and five 2nd edition starters. But you can never have too many core troops.)

Yeah, I'd really been hoping they'd make models for all of the units they made stats for. At least I've managed to find proxies for most of them (I use the starter set predators for regular predators and the multi-part ones as Berserkers lately. Couple of other things I've been doing I've posted images of on the forums here.)

When making my own orders, I was trying to order up models I figured would be hard to find later on. Grabbed a second Dropship, a third APC, couple more boxes of the Hot Landing set, and a couple of the less common Aliens. How I see it, everyone is going to have Marines, Predators, and your rank and file Aliens (Infants/Warriors). Watch ebay, and someone's going to be selling used copies of the starters and maybe a few additional troops, but some of it's going to be hard to find later on, especially some of the models released toward the end of production where there aren't going to be as many in print. Besides, I've probably got +200 models between Stalkers, Infants, and Warriors, so I have plenty to field during play even in big games already. My overall goal was to have enough models to field a minimum of two maximum size units of everything during play. I think with the exception of only having one Alien King and the Royal Guard which I'll have eight of after this latest order, I should be able to field that fairly easily.

I fed SO many quarters into that old arcade game back in the day. I really loved that game. Dutch and Lynn being a part of this game really struck a high note for me with this game and I was crushed when I realized I was going to have to find one of the kickstarter models for them. The unicasts was a perfect way to end the miniatures line.

I agree, there are a lot of great ideas they could have explored. The AvP arcade game, Jeri, Herk Mondo. I actually just painted up a batch of Warriors as Boilers from the Colonial Marines game. Also have a Jeri model in the works that I'm pretty proud of how it's turning out.

I was really enjoying some of the custom models as well. The cat, Specemen 6, Flamethrower female marine, . . . Great stuff.

May be fun to find a little katana and stick it in the ground at Dutch's feet somewhere.

Yeah, I like the Royal Guard models, but that caste was presented so many different ways between the games and comics that it would be hard to create a definitive version of it. But I for one think "the more the merrier" when it comes to models for the game.

I think Prodos lost the license to make more AvP content. I'd love to see them get the license again and go back into production, but it's pretty unlikely I think.

Yes, there's a board game coming out, sounds like it's got a core set and two add-ons planned. From the number of models, I'm hoping that it includes the full set of people from the Aliens movie. And if it scales the same as other products from the company then they should scale well with what we already have. I preordered two, figure one to keep original, one for the extra models for use with this game.

There's also an Alien roleplaying game coming out called simply: Alien: The Roleplaying Game by Free League (Not familiar with the company, but everything I've looked up looks good.)

I think the best we can hope for at this stage is that someone else creates models that scale pretty close that we can use to grow our armies.

I actually broke my order down and made several orders so I could get multiple copies of the models. I have one coming for me, one for each of my kids, and a couple of spares.

As far as I know, Prodos hasn't ever replied to one of their blog posts, you might want to send them a direct message through customer support.

If you can't get the extras, send me a private message and I'll see if we can work something out for my spares. I have five orders that qualify for the bonus models. I have a home for three sets and three sets of the cards. I had planned to sit the extra copies away for some time in the future (Not sure what I'd do with them. Probably put them up on ebay in a few years or something like that.)

Very nice! Seeing a Dutch and Lynn model brings me unspeakable joy. They're the only models for the game that I didn't have an acceptable proxy for at this point in time.

Ordered up some last minute stuff, trying to pick up a couple of models I figure will be difficult to find in the future. My biggest regret right now is that I don't have more money I can drop on the game. Would love to drop two more orders big enough to pick up a set of Dutch and Lynn for both of my sons.

Prodos: If any of you are reading this, thank you. Sincerely, this is among my favorite tabletop games. It has brought me countless hours of joy and it was even the game I used to introduce my kids to tabletop miniatures games. Thank you for this one last chance to pick up a few last minute models. This game will be a staple in my home for many years to come, and it breaks my heart a little bit to know that our journey has reached it's end. (I'm secretly hoping we see a "Clearance sale" once a month for another year or two. ;) Even though I know that is incredibly unlikely.) And most of all, thank you for all the memories. We'll keep making new memories as hobbyists, as fans of the AvP franchise, and as gamers, . . . . even though we'll likely never get to experience the joy of seeing a new model for the game again.

Best wishes to all of you at Prodos.

Very excited about this one! SO many new models. Prisoners are nice, Synth is something I've been wanting for a long time, Tracker looks great, and I'm absolutely giddy at the thought of having some Spitters for my Alien army. Ordered two of the bundle.

Hope to see all of the models, or better yet alternate models, of all of these available for individual sale soon!

Really loving some of these unique models you've been releasing recently. Specemen 6 was a nice addition to the game, Rob Yourstand was both comical and fun to play with, Chester could be a lot of fun too depending on how you stat the figure. Here's hoping for a Herk Mondo in our future.

Seriously though, we need some spitters, Lynn and Dutch (Non-kickstarter exclusive versions), and as many of these neat little uniques you're able to make for us. Loving the game and having a blast collecting all the models I want.

PS: Sent in some entries for the contest. It's going to be fun to see what everyone comes up with.

Received my order for these earlier today, and LOVE them. (Budget is tight at the moment, so I just got one of each of the above so I could get the Specimen 6 model as well.)

The Specimen 6 model in particular impressed me. Not only is it a beautiful model, but it also included a unique card and token for play. The card even was different than the other "Evolved" models (Had to go looking, but on their website here there's special rules for it in the downloads area.)

Love the Unique character for the Alien faction, and while I REALLY hope that a Spitter model is in the near future, I'd love to see additional Unique models for the faction (And all the factions for that matter.) The Abomonation, Grid, Newborn, Raven, or others would make fun and interesting models to field with our armies.